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off all of these massive regulations that are being planned, and now we've come to what senator ron portman -- rob portman is calling the regulatory cliff. it's going to cost american taxpayers more money, hundreds of thousands of jobs. these things are all coming to roost right now, so we are in a situation where the regulatory machine is revving up, and barack obama is going to impose these new, six new regulations under the epa alone. just one of those, which is regulating particles in the air, 680,000 jobs are going to be lost if that regulation goes through. >> can i hold you, can i hold you to that? megyn: go ahead, simon. >> let's come back in six months, a year, 18 months, and you prove those 680,000 jobs were lost because of a regulation that may or may not be promulgated. >> we'll see if it happens. >> this is ridiculous scare tactics. >> it's not scare tactics, simon. >> many of these regulations are mandated by congressional law, and it's just the basic argument behind this that somehow this president wants big government in everybody's lives is not borne out by the fact
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